Questions & Answers for Blackmagic eGPU
61 Questions from the Community
Will this sufficiently maintain power levels on the new 16” MacBook Pro?
Since the new 16” MacBook Pro has a 96W power adapter, how will this do maintaining a charge on that machine?
- Asked by Jonathan A from Shoreline
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Despite the older thunderbolts ports, can this be connected using appropriate adapters to a mini mac mid 2011?
I thought the whole concept behind an eGPU was to offload the graphics from the motherboard, thereby offering an improved graphics performance.
I fully understand that my mini mac still provides a 10Gb/s limit at the thunderbolt port connection but surely offers an option to drive newer higher resolution monitors within the confines that the eGPU can conceivably produce at that connection speed thereby offering all mac users with a backwards compatible upgrade path, even providing USB 3 if the firmware allows?
Hi, that product looks like very interesting, but I want to know if this eGPU works only for graphics or it could work train deep learning algorithms
My machine is a MacBook Pro, early 2015. Can It eGPU work with my laptop?
Does it come with a gpu preinstalled, or is it just the enclosure?
I'm looking for an eGPU, but I realized that I have to buy an enclosure as well as the gpu. Does this already have a gpu inside, or is it like the razor core X in which you have to buy the gpu?
- Asked by Derek R from Los Angeles
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The product information page in the Apple Store says it comes with a "Radeon Pro 580 graphics processor with 8GB of GDDR5 memory".
The Radeon Pro 580 is built-in and non-upgradable. The eGPU.io website has a review that shows the internal components. There is no way for a normal graphics card to be installed.
The major benefit of the Blackmagic eGPU is that it is the only eGPU that lets you connect a Thunderbolt display directly to the GPU in the eGPU without extra hardware. Also, you can connect other Thunderbolt devices to it. These features could be added to normal eGPUs but Intel doesn't allow exposing the second Thunderbolt port of the Thunderbolt controller in eGPUs. The DisplayPort inputs of the Thunderbolt controller would also need to be exposed. It's an arbitrary restriction because some eGPUs do use the second Thunderbolt port to connect a second Thunderbolt controller internally, and also the Blackmagic eGPU exists...
- Answered by Joseph V from Fort Langley
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Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 - 4k via USB-C when connected to BMD eGPU?
1.) Is the TB3 port on this eGPU also USB-C?
2.) If yes, does the BMD eGPU support "DisplayPort alternate mode" over its USB-C connection?
Mac Mini (2018) > TB3 > BMD eGPU > USB-C > Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 @ 4K
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Does the Blackmagic EGPU work on Photoshop?
- Asked by Haman G from Berwick
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Does this product meet the required specification for using Octane Render?
I’m looking to purchase an eGPU and planning to use to improve performance working with motion graphics and 3D design. I will be using adobe After effects, Cinema 4D and Octane Render and am about to purchase a new 27inch iMac to work with.
Does anybody know whether this meets the minimum requirements to get the best out of those softwares? Any advice and guidance would be greatly appreciated.
- Asked by Ben H from Melbourne
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No, the Blackmagic eGPU overrides the internal graphics of Mac products when it is connected through Thunderbolt 3. Once drivers are installed it will work as your primary GPU.
- Answered by Scott S from Rhome
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can i use the blackmagic egpu on my older macbook pro retina A1502
- Asked by Mitchell B from Redland Bay
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Apple does not support eGPUs with Macs that do not come with Thunderbolt 3 ports. Go to the eGPU.io website for information about using eGPUs with Thunderbolt 1 or Thunderbolt 2 Macs.
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If I use the Blackmagic eGPU, can I use three LG ultra 5k monitors with my MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2018, 4 TBT3) ???
I have three 5K LG monitors.
The two monitors are connected like this.
Plug one display into a Thunderbolt 3 port on the left side of my MBP, and the other display into a Thunderbolt 3 port on the right side.
If I use the Blackmagic eGPU, can I use three LG ultra 5k monitors?Answer
Yes, that should be possible.
The MacBook Pro has two Thunderbolt 3 controllers, one on each side. Each Thunderbolt 3 controller takes two DisplayPort inputs from the GPU of the MacBook Pro. Both DisplayPort signals can be transmitted down a single Thunderbolt 3 cable.
Each LG UltraFine 5K display requires two DisplayPort signals over Thunderbolt to support 5K 60Hz resolution. This is why each LG UltraFine 5K requires a separate Thunderbolt controller (one on each side of the MacBook Pro). The Thunderbolt controller in the LG UltraFine 5K uses both DisplayPort signals, that is why it does not have a second Thunderbolt 3 port to daisy chain other Thunderbolt devices.
The Blackmagic eGPU has a Thunderbolt 3 controller which takes two DisplayPort inputs from the GPU of the BlackMagic eGPU. Both DisplayPort signals can be transmitted down a single Thunderbolt 3 cable.
Because the GPU of the Blackmagic eGPU is separate from the MacBook Pro GPU, and because the LG UltraFine 5K connected to the Blackmagic GPU takes DisplayPort signals from the GPU of the Blackmagic eGPU, there will be no conflict. This is not possible with other eGPU solutions unless you have a Thunderbolt 3 add-in card (with DisplayPort inputs) between the Thunderbolt display and the GPU of the eGPU.
If the OS doesn't allow it, then that's a bug that should be reported.
The displays connected to the MacBook Pro will not be accelerated like the display connected to the Blackmagic eGPU. They might see some improvement, depending on the software.
- Answered by Joseph V from Fort Langley
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is it work with MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014)
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Is this going to improve video editing performance while using Final Cut Pro?
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Is the eGPU user upgradeable?
Can the user open this chassis and swap out the Radeon Pro 580 for another GPU?
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Will the Blackmagic eGPU work with an iMac that has Thunderbolt 2 ports?
I have an iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) with two Thunderbolt 2 ports. I am wondering if this eGPU will work with my computer using a Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adaptor?
- Asked by Jeff H from Toronto
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Is the Blackmagic eGPU work with a macbook pro? Also is it portable/ functional to take to different working locations?
I study architecture and Design and create 3d renderings and want to improve the graphics processor that I have on my macbook pro- hoping that the Blackmagic eGPU could help to achieve this. I would be taking this Blackmagic eGPU to and from my work space to my home.
- Asked by Alexis T from Henderson
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It works with the late 2016 Mac book pro (touchbar) and later models. As for portability, it is heavy and bulky. Not ideal for travel, but that’s not to say it can’t be done. Ensure that your application accepts eGPUs so you get the full power out of it. EX: Final Cut Pro X works well with the eGPU.
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Does this work with Windows 10 Bootcamp?
- Asked by Carter D from Hendersonville
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No, as of now (Late July 2018) it only works with MacOS
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Exact details on how to use the Blackmagic eGPU with 2 x 4K USB-C monitors. How is this configured with only 2 thunderbolt 3 ports?
I am a little bit put off this product as it only has 2 x Thunderbolt 3 ports on it. One is clearly needed for the mac, the other being available for a display.
I run 2 x LG 4K displays using USB-C so no adaptor is currently needed. They are both plugged into the thunderbolt 3 ports on the side of my MacBook Pro 2018.
How would this be handled when using the eGPU?
Would I lose the extra power of the eGPU for operations involving the display plugged directly into the MBP, while one was plugged directly into the eGPU?
Does the eGPU do it's processing and send it back into the mac, regardless of where the monitors are plugged in? Or do the monitors need to be plugged in to the eGPU to get any benefit?
- Asked by James L from Clermont
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It depends on the kind of processing.
For 3D games, it's best if the display is connected to the eGPU. If the display is connected to the Mac, then the rendering of the game done by the eGPU needs to be sent to the Mac so the Mac can send it to the display. This drops the performance slightly. Higher resolutions will have a greater performance drop.
Other kinds of processing needs to be sent to the Mac anyway so it can be saved to disk so it shouldn't matter where the display is connected.
To connect two 4K USB-C displays to the Blackmagic eGPU will require some extra hardware. I believe the LG 4K displays don't work with a DisplayPort to USB-C cable unless it also includes USB 2.0 so you can't just use a cable like the Moshi USB-C to DisplayPort Cable (which is supposed to be bi-directional). Anyway, you want the cable to include USB 2.0 for audio, brightness control, USB ports.
I've heard that the "Original Huawei VR 2 Computer Connection Cable DP1.2 + USB2.0 to Type-C Cable" (available on e-Bay) works with the LG UltraFine 4K display. You can combine two of those with a Thunderbolt 3 to Dual DisplayPort adapter.
Another option is a USB-C dock that has a USB-C port that supports DisplayPort alt mode. I believe the HP Thunderbolt Dock G2 has such a USB-C port. One USB-C display should connect to that. The other USB-C display should connect to the Thunderbolt 3 port of the dock.
Another option is a Thunderbolt 3 PCIe expansion box that has two Thunderbolt 3 ports and a DisplayPort output, such as the OWC Mercury Helios 3. Install a SUNIX UPD2018 PCIe card. Connect the DisplayPort output of the Helios 3 to the DisplayPort input of the UPD2018. Now you can connect a USB-C display to the USB-C with DisplayPort alt mode output of the UPD2018, and another USB-C display to the second Thunderbolt 3 port of the Helios 3.
The egpu.io forums have more information about eGPUs and the performance difference between displays connected to the eGPU or to the computer.
- Answered by Joseph V from Fort Langley
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