Listen to NPR’s Throughline podcast with Ramtin Arablouei and Rund Abdelfatah on Apple Podcasts.
https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/throughline/id1451109634
Listen to Tinkercast | Wondery’s Wow in the World podcast with Guy Raz and Mindy Thomas on Apple Podcasts.
https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/wow-in-the-world/id1233834541